$2,258.84 – APMEX price for same 2023 coin Bullion

$1,963.40 – Current gold spot price, KITCO

What do you do? If anything…

P.S. My local, elite coin store pukes at U.S. Mint Proof coins. Pays spot for them.

A coin doesn’t have to be counterfeit, Major D, for there to be fraud involved in its sale to the public. For example, selling bullion ASEs as collectable grade ASEs is fraud by any other name.

Two things and two things only (not to be confused with the Red October’s Senior Captain [the late very great] Sean Connery’s “One ping and one ping only”).
1) When the clouds of matter gravitationally transformed into stars, those created the light we see.
2) After the Big Bang the Inflation era of the universe’s expansion exceeded the speed of light.

Pie write? Pi right? Pyrite!

Lizard people. Well lizards have regeneration capabilities. Whether they evolve to live forever is something else. Most probable is aliens are robots or androids. Most of the galaxy we see is already dead. Light just reaching us from galaxies long gone. What I wonder is, how does light from big bang reach us? How did all these planets and stars traverse the universe, suddenly coalesce from dust and gas into planets and stars then cluster into galaxies and suddenly are doused in light from big bang. If everything came from singularity. Light would pass outward. Even with massive explosion, none of the elements would outrun light. Even if the explosion lasted 50 billion years until all the oxygen and fuel have dried up, matter would not be close to reaching the limits of the first light. But they claim universe is only 15 billion years old. Earth is roughly 5 billion. Which is cool, but the galaxies we see are well beyond how fast light would travel. In other words, we see those galaxies due to the light, but it is so far away that traveling Even at speed of sound would take more than several billion years to reach those far off galaxies. Not to mention sun’s that are million of times bigger than our own. It just doesn’t add up. And good chance these goldilock planets we see will be gone or barren by the time we get there.

Now if a civilization formed soon after and had time to fight and evolve and find peace and seed planets etc and create worm drives and fast as light travel then maybe we see them. But unless you know exact trajectories and distance it’d be almost impossible to teleport. My guess is any aliens we may see are from our own solar system. Perhaps dark side of the moon, underwater, on Jupiter’s moons. Definitely extremaphiles. But no telling what we don’t know. Years ago we had no periodic table of elements, then they added a few, and a few more and it stayed a certain number for a while then a few more. And I think 4 more added in last 5 years. I think 119 or 121. But there could be a galaxy with 4,000 in it. Untold properties. Would totally change laws of physics. But considering we can’t make trains that don’t derail, or planes that crash, or GPS that works well always, I doubt we conquer the universe.

I hope we land on Mars and when they build the first habitat they discover a billboard that says last hope for survival, get your ticket for last chance to win a seat on the final ship heading to earth. Men are from Mars and women Venus. Earth makes sense as a good meeting place for first date. But I don’t see living organisms living long enough to travel other star systems. It took 40 years for a probe to finally travel half of our solar system to enter and penitrate the ort cloud. And we decay quickly in space. Lose muscle mass, coloring, body reacts different. All those mutinies and at sea overthrowing and that after trying to cross Atlantic in a few months. I don’t see humanity getting along long enough to last on a ship for thousands of years, even if we are able to constantly impact our minds into new tech to keep our “soul” alive. Plus solar flares, gamma rays, neutron explosions. Million mile per hour winds or more hitting a small craft.

But what we do know us history shows us nature is violent. Predators and prey. And killing means survival. At first they may assimilate and join us. Until they learn more and more of their kind arrive. Then they’ll overthrown us. And enslave us.

Seems funny all those ancient pyramids built have gods in them. None of the gods shown working. So my guess is they enslaved first man and then suddenly man realized they had the numbers and wiped them out. And that’s why no modern pyramids. Buildings and monuments much smaller. No longer pics of ananaki or helmet people, or lizard or anubis, thoth, coaxacotyl, star people. And then a couple thousand years later, suddenly Jesus is the big thing. But Shiva and Buddha don’t get new temples, or grand scale ones anyway. Or perhaps aliens figured we were too dumb and abandoned us.

Pyrite

Thanks for the clarification, Kaiser. As a counter argument, how can you say that prices are outrageous if people are buying? I don’t begrudge anybody making a profit on their coins, or in making as much profit as they can- as long as its honestly advertised and the same is delivered. Unless there is fraud (like in delivering Chinese counterfeits in bogus slabs) the shame I’d say falls on the people buying who are not comparing prices or doing their own research and due diligence.

And you’d still get to hear everything twice everything twice, Craig.

That phrase, Major D, referred to the often outrageous prices being asked for the ASE-W Proof Coin taken from the Congratulation Set by the likes of Caffeine Mike and similar major-profit-seeking resellers and not for the $2 extra the Mint charges for their product.

That’s a good point, Major D.