2023 Morgan and Peace Dollar Order Limits Raised; 90% of Dollars Reserved for Subscriptions

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US Mint image 2023 Morgan and Peace Silver Dollars
U.S. Mint image of their 2023 Reverse Proof Morgan and Peace Silver Dollars

The United States Mint recently updated prices for its suite of products featuring 2023 Morgan and Peace Silver Dollars. Today, March 16, the U.S. Mint announced increases in their household order limits.

The bureau also stated that just 10% of the dollar products are reserved for sale at launch, placing priority on customers who order them early through subscriptions.

Original household order limits were 3 for each product. The new limits are 25 apiece for the individual dollars and 5 for the reverse proof set.

2023 Morgan and Peace Dollar Products

Product Mint / Mint Mark Mintage Household Order Limit Price
2023-P Uncirculated Morgan Silver Dollar Philadelphia – No Mint Mark 275,000 25 $76.00
2023-P Uncirculated Peace Silver Dollar Philadelphia – No Mint Mark 275,000 25 $76.00
2023-S Proof Morgan Silver Dollar San Francisco – S 400,000 25 $80.00
2023-S Proof Peace Silver Dollar San Francisco – S 400,000 25 $80.00
2023-S Morgan and Peace Silver Dollar Reverse Proof Set San Francisco – S 250,000 5 $185.00

 

U.S. Mint customers can take advantage of the changes by either subscribing to or updating existing subscriptions to each product. Mint subscriptions work much like a magazine subscription. Those subscribed to products receive them when they become available.

U.S. Mint Reserves 10% for Sale at Launch

General times of "summer" and "fall" are currently listed for the products’ launch dates.

A product’s household order limit is removed after the first 24 hours of its sale, if any still remain. For the Morgan and Peace dollars and set, subscriptions are expected to claim most of them before they are actually released.

U.S. Mint Announcement

The main portion of the Mint’s announcement follows:

"The Mint is pleased to announce an increase in household order limits for all Morgan and Peace products.

When we relaunched the Morgan and Peace Silver Dollars in 2021, they were greeted with tremendous enthusiasm and sold quickly. We regret that many were unable to obtain the coins they sought.

Subscriptions for these limited edition 2023 products opened in August 2022, and the response has been excellent. Thanks to our initial low household order limit of 3 coins each, we are confident that our customers have had the opportunity to subscribe and reserve the coins they desire for their collection. Now, while supplies last, customers have the opportunity to secure additional examples of these iconic coins.

Please note, due to high demand and limited quantities the Mint will cancel any orders that exceed the new household order limit. For those who prefer not to subscribe, we have reserved a limited quantity of 10% of each product for sale at launch.

We thank you for your loyalty and patience as we continue to improve our system and provide the best possible subscription experience."

The U.S. Mint’s subscription product page for Morgan and Peace Silver Dollars is located here.

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Kaiser Wilhelm

“High demand and limited quantities” for these Morgan and Peace Dollars in the Mint’s own words and yet they raise the Household Order Limit to 25. So which is it?

Sooner

My thought exactly.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Glad I’m not the only one, Sooner. Thanks for the input.

Rich

Sir Kaiser, I think the quantities are not limited enough and the demand was not high enough. Compared to the 2021 releases, the 2023 releases’ mintage and product limits were set too high in relation to the demand seen thus far. For example, here are the comparisons for the 2023 Morgan and Peace Dollars versus the 2021 Morgan and Peace Dollars: 2021 Peace Uncirculated product limit = 200,000 2023 Peace Uncirculated mintage limit = 275,000 2023 Peace Proof mintage limit = 400,000 2021 Morgan Uncirculated product limit = 175,000 2023 Morgan Uncirculated mintage limit = 275,000 2023 Morgan Proof mintage… Read more »

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Couldn’t agree more, Good Sir Rich. I will however give the Mint folks some chutzpah credit for being willing to throw all reasonable caution to the wind and coming up with such a contradictory, cockamamie story in an attempt to cover their derrieres.

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Chris Terp

Kaiser, maybe I’ll pick up more Peace Dollars as I like those coins.

Yeah, may be a little too many being pressed. Mint maybe still trying to ride the SARS-CoV-2 mania when everyone was home and bored. Now, still maybe not at office but traveling and spending their extra money being tourists?

Kaiser Wilhelm

I agree, Chris, that the Peace Dollar is a very attractive coin, as is the Morgan. Regarding expenditures, that will all depend on whether this banking crisis disappears or gets worse, in which latter case a lot of people will skip the traveling and forgo major and/or discretionary purchases.

Chris Terp

Well if your bank has a run Kaiser you can ask the FDIC to recoup any of your losses with the Mint’s new Peace and Morgan silver dollars – looks like there are some extras to possibly throw around this year 😉

Dazed and Coinfused

Maybe everyone bought out the fiji reverse proof mad mike had on hsn and since that’s the coin the mint should have made, they’ve scratched their itch and see no point buying these subpar over produced coins. Plus the fiji ones come with a genuine red oak box, now made with real pine.

Kaiser Wilhelm

We don’t know how many Fiji reverse proofs were bought to substitute for missing hockey pucks or fill in for clay pigeon shortages, but we could find out by scouring rinks and ranges for badly battered and/or punctured plastic slabs.

Chris Terp

In Magic Mike We Trust 😉

Hey D&C, he minted 100th anniversary Morgan & Peace coins when US Mint couldn’t find the silver for their pressings. That man is amazing! 😮 😉

Craig

I hope they are using Red Pine at least and not the White, Yellow, or Black Pine’s for those genuine Red Oak boxes!

john

There must not be, much demand.
I do not need 25 of any but probable a couple more of the 2 coin sets.

Kaiser Wilhelm

I can’t imagine anyone needing 25 of anything from the Mint, john, but we all know they don’t have us in mind when they make the Household Order Limit that high; that’s for the flippers.

CaliSkier

Kaiser, you say: “I can’t imagine anyone needing 25 of anything from the Mint” Any chance you could imagine a need for, say 25 V75 PR AGE’s? Still dumbfounded, my brother wouldn’t even try to buy 1 on drop day. I told him I’d pay him an immediate $1,000, with more to come after grading and selling. Now they go for roughly $10,000-$15,00+ a pop! Otherwise, agreed.

Craig

I wanted just 1. Sadly, I got skunked on that gem.

CaliSkier

Me too Craig! Scoring one of those V75 AGE’s, was like hitting a mini Lottery for those lucky enough to hook one up. Over on MNB we’ve speculated for years on how many Mr Ryder was allotted???

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Chris Terp

I lucked out and got a silver V75 Craig & Caliskier. It was a frustrating and painstaking online process w/low minting of 75K. I can’t even image what the online experience was for the much lower mintage gold coin.

CaliSkier

November 5, 2020, a day in infamy, Chris & Craig! That was a crazy day! Like many, I spent the first 5-10 minutes trying to score one of the Gold V75 Eagles before, giving up/in, in order to focus on the v75 ASE. I was lucky enough to score a silver V75 ASE as well. Now the sad part, with all the BS the Mint has pulled, I’ve made only 3 additional purchases, none in the past 2 years. One of those ended up being my one and only purchase for a “flip”. I flipped a 2-coin RP ASE Designer… Read more »

Chris Terp

Yeah, it was crazy that day Caliskier. I was so pleased I secured the silver V75 but missed out on the Morgan CC when Mint took it out of my cart while inputting my credit card details. Mind you, tried inputting payment details probably 30 times and fighting being kicked off site and also being informed I was “unauthorized to purchase” or whatever Mint’s server was spewing back to me. Was able to get the Morgan O coin though.

Ticketmaster, Amazon, eBay, etc. can handle high volume web traffic – US Gubmint?

Kia99

Is anyone else also getting the feeling that the mint struck the full maximum mintage last year but is now disappointed that advanced sales aren’t higher?

Craig

Yeah that thought crossed my mind.They pressed a bunch of the 2023 W Proof ASE’s in Oct. 2022 which Mr. Sold Out Limited Edition Mezach is hustling for $250. I am amazed that these modern Morgan/Peace Dollars haven’t generated more enthusiasm than it has. After all, the Morgans and Peace Dollars are probably the most collected series in US coinage. I’d say the likelihood of acquiring a complete date/mint mark collection of those is very remote these days, but the modern issues should be well in the reach of most collectors.I have several nice Morgans/Peace Dollars (not enough and certainly… Read more »

Kaiser Wilhelm

Craig, I’m fairly confident it is far less important to the Mint to drive up buying interest among individual collectors than throughout the Bulk Purchase community, so raising the Mint price of these coins substantially, thereby cutting deeply into the resellers’ hoped for profit margins, would be counterproductive.

Craig

I was being sarcastic Kaiser. In the real world, where most of us live, if our business couldn’t sell something, we would likely discount the item. I understand the Bulk Purchaser’s are more important to the Mint than we are, but that’s partly because people had plenty of “disposable income” to spend on their offerings. Now with interest rates soaring, the banks in trouble (we don’t need people running banks that know anything about economics, right?), and more layoffs looming with continued high inflation, is the consensus here that folks will spend more on collectable coins? I didn’t mention the… Read more »

Kaiser Wilhelm

Bingo, Kia99. Also, I’m sure that we’re not members of the sucker cadre born yesterday.

Roger

Obviously the Mints relationship with customers is based on the P.T. Barnum model and there is a serious shortage of suckers.

Kaiser Wilhelm

That, Roger, is only the case because said (above mentioned) gullible denizens of the land have their eyes glued to Doctor Mike “You Can Only Get It Here” Mezack’s Never Traveling But Always Shilling Medicine Show.

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Craig

You need to up-date that meme..his hair is grey now and he wears prescription eye glasses. The “Red Oak!”… that never changes!

Roger

I think you are correct. Too bad…If they had not already produced them they would have stopped production or better yet they could have changed the dies and stamped them with 2022 dates. They would have sold those like hotcakes. lol

Kia99

Good point, 2022 was the year of continuing magic. There is something strange about picking up again in 2023.

Kaiser Wilhelm

I can’t quite put my finger on it, but somehow the 2023 Mint coin lineup makes me feel more than a little bit listless about ordering. Go figure.

CaliSkier

LOL Kaiser Wilhelm, surely you jest! Haha Really? The Mint says: “Thanks to our initial low household order limit of 3 coins each, we are confident that our customers have had the opportunity to subscribe and reserve the coins they desire for their collection. Now, while supplies last, customers have the opportunity to secure additional examples of these iconic coins. “ Should perhaps read more similar to: Hello, do to underwhelming demand, too high of a mintage and numerous subscription reductions, decreases and holds placed by existing US Mint account holders, in response to our unannounced raising of prices, a wonderful… Read more »

Kaiser Wilhelm

I’m not sure what I am supposed to have “jested” about, Caliskier, considering your analysis of that situation matches mine straight down the line, or maybe I just misunderstood what you said and/or meant. In any case, the Mint is once again full of its standard bull and trying its very best to confuse not only the issue but also everyone who thinks about it.

CaliSkier

That’s why I started with LOl Kaiser. It’s more of their same, you are correct that I seconded your statements and that was my attempt, apparently at “sorry ask”sarcasm”. This due to the constant and seemingly never ending mysteries that emit regularly from the Mint. Very much like Ventris Gibson, comments contradicting the Mints own Annual Report, in the report re 2022 ASE sales. They seem to have problems with words and numbers as well as typical accepted meaning, when you combine or take/consider as a whole??? SMH Again, my sorrycasm isn’t as apparent as I’d hoped, which makes it… Read more »

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Sorry, Caliskier, for not quite picking up on what was your clearly extremely humorous intent; my bad. As another example of how this can occur so unintentionally, today in a completely different context I had emailed one of my cousins. As a consequence, he replied that he thought I was being gratuitously sarcastic when what I had intended was simply to be facestious and above all funny. How easily we can run aground on the rocky shore of misunderstanding!

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CaliSkier

Now that is funny Kaiser Wilhelm! Really, really funny, if I understand correctly! LOL Thank you for helping to increase my vocabulary, as I was unfamiliar with this other word for sarcasm. Your witty banter, wry sense of humor, is greatly appreciated!

Kaiser Wilhelm

Not to mention that I just noticed that I mispelled “facetious” in my comment, but as Joe E. Brown said to Jack Lemmon in Some Like It Hot when Jack revealed to Joe that he wasn’t a woman after all, “Nobody’s perfect”. Not so incidentally, many thanks for all the kind, complimentary and gracious words, Caliskier; those are of course very much appreciated!

Seth Riesling

The problem is that these mintage limits are very high. They will never be rare coins & only worth it if you can get a top 70 grade at PCGS or NGC.
You can buy original Morgan & Peace silver dollars, common dates, graded 63 & maybe 64 for these prices!

NumisdudeTX

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Tom

so see, you can now order 25, keep the few that look like they might be 70 and return the rest, such a deal!

Seth Riesling

That seems to be the game plan for sure…it’s like gambling in Vegas. Give me some 70s Lady Luck! Lol.

NumisdudeTX

Craig

Tom and Seth, Do you guys get all your coins graded? I keep mine in their OGP because if I get them graded then I don’t get the tingle from opening those presentation grade boxes they come in.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Craig, Seth and Tom, I’ve never had a coin graded myself, but that certainly isn’t going to deter me from wishing all of you nothing but brilliant 70’s on your Morgan and Peace Dollars!

Tom

never got one graded myself. wouldn’t spend the $ on it. possibly I will get the one innovation dollar I have which only has lettering on part of the coin, only because it is not like the Washington dollars that simply didn’t get run through the process. I’m more curious to see what explanation would be attached to the silly thing. But that will wait until maybe I can talk to someone at a coin show.

Kaiser Wilhelm

On the other hand, Seth, that is a cause for concern only for those who have the intention of selling their coins. Those of us who will leave our collections to our heirs don’t nearly put as much importance on that.

Craig

What if you buy them up till you have every last one you can talk people out of and accidentally melt them down into grills for rappers thus you are cutting the production amount and making a buck and maybe a little profit off your limited edition rapper grills lol

CaliSkier

For “schizzle” Craig! Can you imaging the “blinging” dazzle if able to get Peace Liberty’s, spiked headdress lined up just right? Give it that wicked looking “Jaws” affect in Moonraker, when you smile! LOL Also, you could heat and “hammer” out a few into “jigging” spoons for limited edition, fishing lures! Drill a couple holes after hammering, add a split ring, then split ring and treble hook and “Voila”! A “Peaceful” or “Moregame, Morgan” fishing lure! Bam, kick it up a notch! LOL

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CaliSkier

There indeed should have been some numbers adjusted, however I honestly believe the US Mint adjusted the wrong numbers, because they see only $$$’s signs and basically prisoner ID numbers, AKA accounts, not people or customers? I wrote on MNB back in December my thoughts on numbers. “400,000 proof proof Peace dollars in 2023 is at least 125,000 too many. The US Mint is absolutely blowing it and I can’t help but wonder about their marketing as well as forecast teams??? To me, what is really crazy, is they have done “borderline” nothing to improve upon their, close to, 7… Read more »

Kaiser Wilhelm

One of these days, Caliskier, you’re going to let go and say what you really think! 😉

CaliSkier

Hopefully my sense of reality isn’t too harsh?

Kaiser Wilhelm

You know I was just joshing there, Caliskier, in that it’s obvious you don’t make a habit of holding anything back. We each have our own style, and why not!

CaliSkier

Yeah I. know Kaiser. With that being said, no doubt I often can struggle to give pause or put perhaps a gentler twist on things? A fine line I’m still developing, as I do have a tendency still, to revert back to calling it like I see it! Kind of like this or these, smoke and mirrors, “Ponzi” type shenanigans going on with our banking system and government. I’ve tried to not go there, however some pretty interesting ramblings are sure to follow?

Kaiser Wilhelm

Of late I’ve developed a new theory about the expression of individual political ideas and feelings, which is that it doesn’t really matter what anyone says here (or anywhere else, for that matter) regarding their own particular political beliefs and/or leanings since everyone else has their very own vision/version of how the world works (or according to how each of us sees things, how it should work) and it’s rather doubtful that anyone is ever likely to change anyone else’s mind, therefore such sharings here primarily serve the purpose of the steady and repetitive reinforcing of our own ideas as… Read more »

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AJ Johnson

Anyone else still waiting for their subscription 2023-W ASEs to be shipped?

Jeff Legan

My subscription (of 1) was delivered on March 6th. Seems like there is a problem. I would think you should have gotten yours by now. If you haven’t contacted them yet about it, I would.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Just once, Jeff, wouldn’t it be nice if Mint and problem weren’t in the same context.

CaliSkier

Re-post of answer Jeff and Kaiser, I gave to AJ earlier on MNB, and for any one else who may be curious or not have heard about this latest Mint issue. “A. JohnsoN, I posted yesterday(MNB) about an e-mail some customers received stating the US Mint was having “technical difficulties” processing payments and expected a delay until March 30th before resuming shipping of the March 2 releases of the W Proof ASE’s.”

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Now that’s a good one if I’ve ever heard one, Caliskier, and once again propels the Mint right into the category of pathological liar.

Craig

Kaiser, I don’t want to get “political” but lying seems to be a requirement these days if you want to be employed in our beloved government. It is both sad and concerning.

CaliSkier

Sorry to be overly cynical Craig and Kaiser, however I wonder if those interested in interviewing have to study up for and be ready for this question? “Do you swear to tell, no truth, none of the truth, speak nothing but nonsense, tip no “cards”, nor give away clues(unless it’s good stock info, wink wink), once hired? PERFECT, you start tomorrow!” Just too many damned “Hands in the Cookie Jar”!

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Domenic Vaiasicca

My take. The mint saying demand was so great with the 2021 coins there WILL be a demand for the 2023 coins….lets raise the household limit (now that they cost more than the 2021s). So now we have new coins that cost more than their 2021 counterparts and the w coins will have higher mintages. The price of silver is not really a factor (oh wait, last year the mint stated they had a problem getting silver blanks, hence no 2022 coins. Complete assinine mint logic and doublespeak. Their logic is just a way of saying ” look, more available…..give… Read more »

Kaiser Wilhelm

Great analysis, Domenic, of how the Mint isn’t concerned about promoting collecting.

Michael C

How many are set aside for the Authorized Bulk Purchase Program dealers?

Antonio

I hear the sound of the value of the coins I ordered going down the toilet.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Monty Python said we should “Always look at the bright side of life”. I would see it as a positive, Antonio, that it’s not the coins themselves drowning in the ceramic hot tub.

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Kaiser Wilhelm

I originally was given to believe it was 10%, Michael, but lately it seems to vary.

CaliSkier

At least 10% Michael C, per guidelines for the AP/ABPP. Authorized Bulk Purchase Program states: “Not all Mint products will be offered through this program, and no more than 10% of products with limited quantities will be distributed under this program.”

Interesting note however as I also stumbled onto a different named program, they call or called, “Numismatic Bulk Purchase Program”. I’m not sure if these are 1 in the same? I think the that will be ABPP program supplanted the NBPP?
Link to ABPP on US Mint website:

https://www.usmint.gov/news/press-releases/united-states-mint-announces-new-authorized-bulk-purchase-program

Roger

I suspect none of the bureaucrats at the Mint has a clue about economics and marketing. In a poor economy with high inflation they thought it was a good idea to raise prices and increase production. Now they hope they will sell more by raising household limits without lowering prices. If they really want to move their product glut they will have to offer a volume discount to the 25 unit buyers. 25 @ $72 each for example. This lack of economic understanding is also common with politicians who think they can double revenue by doubling taxes without realizing that… Read more »

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Since the HOL of 25, Roger, is meant primarily for the convenience (and the subsequent profit) of big dealers, buying clubs and freelance flippers, there isn’t any pressing need for the Mint to offer a volume discount as the resellers will set their own prices with the maximum profit margin in mind anyway.

As for business taxation, that’s a joke to begin with as every corporate enterprise will do its damndest to avoid paying the piper whatever the tax rate happens to be.

Roger

I think even the flippers and scammers might be hesitant about trying to move this apparent surplus. After all they will have to compete with the Chinese counterfeiters selling their version for $9.99 on Facebook. lol

It is not just corporations that plan investments around tax rates. I’ve been known to “Harvest Loses” to avoid Capital Gain taxes on profitable trades. The real revenue losses are from the small businesses that can’t survive or never get started.

Kaiser Wilhelm

The up side of buying a Chinese counterfeit, Roger, is that when the government confiscates everyone’s gold again all these phony ducats will be exempt!
I understand what you’re saying about small businesses; they’re in a completely diferent situation due to lacking both the high priced legal talent and the invisble offshore hiding places big business has access to.

Roger

That just gave me a thought. If the government ever implements E. Warren’s tax on unrealized capital gains I’ll just declare my collection to be Chinese counterfeits. lol

Kaiser Wilhelm

Conversely, Roger, if the bottom ever happens to drop out of the precious metals market be sure to put in for a sizeable tax rebate.

Paul

If you declare your collection to be Chinese counterfeits, then your collection can be seized by the US Secret Service with no compensation to you (Chapter 25, Title 18, United States Code).

Craig

Those who buy that coinage from China have a rude awakening in the future when they find out they might have a silver coating and I use might very loosely lol I wouldn’t wish any collector to be fooled by their junk unfortunately some people don’t research their purchases like they should before buying

Kaiser Wilhelm

When the US Mint outsources its collectable coin production to China we might not like what we get but we’ll sure be happy with the prices.

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Wouldn’t “Mr. Smith” make the perfect sidekick for Caffeine Mike?

Chris Terp

The Inflation Reduction Act is supposed to reduce inflation (Deflation Act), guess Gubmint not following it this year Roger? 😮 😉

Roger

To paraphrase Inigo Montoya “I don’t think “tremendous enthusiasm” means what the Mint thinks it means.”

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Kaiser Wilhelm

“Inconceivable!”

Chris Terp

Right! Gubmint marketing.

Mint needs to hire Mezack for its marketing 😉

Kaiser Wilhelm

Exactly, Chris, and while they’re at it the US Mint may as well grab the Canadian Mint’s chief colorizer and the British Mint’s premium pricing genius.

Kaiser Wilhelm

It’s SOP, Chris, for the gubmint to talk the talk without ever walking the walk.

Chris Terp

🙁

Major D

Right Chris, it’s a Gubmint Conspiracy to target your coin collection!

Kaiser Wilhelm

Well, Major D, it is we who have elected each of these gubmints one right after the other for them to be able to steal our coins, which sadly enough means Pogo was right when he said “We have met the enemy and he is us.”

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Major D

There’s a little green man in my head…..

(which reminds me: Happy St. Pat’s Day!)

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Kaiser Wilhelm

And a Happy St. Patrick’s Day to you, sir!

Hey, when you’re done with the little green fella could you send him back; he still has prepaid residency in my cranial cavity also.

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Chris Terp

Ha ha ha Major D 🙂 😉

We all know the Deflation Act has nothing to do w/inflation. Christmas tree legislation for environmental lobby and many others that have nothing to do w/inflation, deflation or lowering prices to help the economy 🙁

Kaiser Wilhelm

Possibly it’s designed to deflate our national expectations so that our citizenry can relax and go back to peacefully chewing our cud.

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Daniel

Is anyone having difficulty accessing their subscriptions at the Mint’s website?
I click “Manage Subscriptions” and it doesn’t have anything listed

Kaiser Wilhelm

Mine are also gone for the moment, Daniel. This has occurred before; I don’t know why.

Roger

Same with mine and my order history is once again not showing recent purchases.

Tom

and other things aren’t working. I tried checking data-available and nothing happens. Maybe now that the order limit has been lifted so many people are ordering 25 that the system crashed. 🙂

Kaiser Wilhelm

Tom, the Mint has renamed that as “availableCount“.

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Major D

Yes, same with me.

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Paul

My subscriptions were gone from the website this morning at 6AM or so (Friday March 17, 2023). They showed up again when I checked at 11:49 AM Friday. The FaceBook page for US Mint says they had noticed a problem changing orders and seeing “my subscriptions” web page on Thursday, and they thought it was fixed in a couple of hours on Thursday, but lots of people like myself with subscriptions could not see them on website so it was not fixed for us. The US Mint rep on that FB page said the Thursday “fix” did not correctly handle… Read more »

Kaiser Wilhelm

All’s well that ends well, Paul, Major D, Tom and Roger. I’m beginning to think the Mint chooses to have us experience these occasional trials and intermittent tribulations (with a nod to Jesus Christ, Superstar) to help us stay alert and on our toes; after all, who would want a bunch of old sleepyheads as their principal customer base?

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Major D

The glitch has been fixed.

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Kaiser Wilhelm

That’s all well and good as far as it goes, Major D, but I just have to ask…

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mmk

I can”t seem to find the data available for these coins on the mint website.I tried the method mentioned on this chat. Any ideas ?

Kia99

I can’t find the term for any coins, it is as though they scrubbed the site of that field. Maybe they didn’t like us watching…

Kia99

Oh well, another silly conspiracy down to tubes! In the Mint’s page source for a coin, what used to be labeled “Data-available” is now called “availableCount”

Rich

Many thanks, Kia99, for providing this new information on “data-available” being replaced by “availableCount” for determining the number of coins available for sale for a Mint product. I just tried it out and it works (e.g., “availableCount”: 9,489 for the 2023 Congratulations Set at 2:15 ET today March 17th)!

Kaiser Wilhelm

And there we have it folks, another great Mint mystery solved, courtesy of Good Sir Rich, Kia99 and mmk! It’s extremely edifying to see fellow Brothers Of The Coin collaborating spontaneously in the effort to find the sole applicable answer whenever such a thoroughly unexpected and completely unexplained situation arises. Kudos all around!

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CaliSkier

Hear, hear, I second that Kaiser!

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Kaiser Wilhelm

Seconds are always welcome and much appreciated, Caliskier!

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Kia99

You are welcome Rich and Kaiser. I marvel though Rich that when you repeated my explanation of the situation, your words were strikingly clearer than mine. Probably a reflection of my tangled neurons.

Kaiser Wilhelm

I agree with you completely, Kia99, when it comes to making any situation or scenario as plain and clear as it’s ever going to be there’s no one better to get that job done right than Good Sir Rich.

Tom

you can abbreviate it a little, availablec will work

Kaiser Wilhelm

Just add an “h” to the end of that abbreviation, Tom, and you’ve got a perfectly respectable word from Mad Magazine.

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Major D

Good to know. Thx Kia99!

Kaiser Wilhelm

Major D, when you wrote “Thx Kia99” in your comment above you revived a memory of a previously vanished into the dustbin of time science fiction movie with the obscure title THX 1138. How cool!

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John Hendricks

Why has the value of Morgan silver dollars plummeted.

Kaiser Wilhelm

John, what major drop in the value of Morgan silver dollars are you referring to here?

Tom

And now, with the new limit, the dollars are selling like hot cakes (and not Lisa Douglas hotcakes)
over 1000 of the 2 coin set in one day.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Tom,
Not to be a wet blanket but singularly huge increases like that sometimes portend equally sizeable order cancellations and/or product returns to the Mint down the road.

Rooster

I have done this many times with subscriptions. As with these Morgans and Peace subscriptions will be adjusted as the sale date approaches.

Kaiser Wilhelm

That’s the beauty of this system, Rooster; no money owed until order finalized.

FViia

Maybe selling out by next week? 2-coin is at 29,455 remaining. So if 10% held for day of release, then we have 4,455 remaining for subscription.

Kaiser Wilhelm

Quite possibly, FViia, since that appears to be a very attractive and desirable set.

Rooster

Not sure but the limits may be adjusted down. Tried ordering more but the screen defaults back to household limit reached. I am not at 25 even though screen still shows a limit of 25. Anyone know what’s up?

Kaiser Wilhelm

It could be, Rooster, that as the coin(s) approaches a subscription sellout the Mint’s algorithm reduces the HOLs for any new and/or increased subscriptions. Just guessing.

Rooster

Never had this happen before but you may be on to something. Thank!